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US Senate Declares Torture "Peachy," Confirms Mukasey as "Grand Inquisitor"

by: BobHiggins

Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 09:12:29 AM PST



(This needs to be on the front page today - promoted by a small quiet voice)





Waterboarding is now as "American" as "Mom" and "apple pie"

The "distinguished jurist" told them in open hearings and in written communications that he could not call waterboarding "torture," and reportedly, pravately expressed his fear that doing so might open the gates for some executive department and military officials to lawsuits or criminal prosecution.

Notice here that what is important to this "distinguished jurist" is not the fact that the laws of the United States regarding the use of torture may have been violated by highly placed government officials, or that subordinates were directed to violate the law, but that those officials must somehow be shielded from civil or criminal sanction.

No matter that the practice known as waterboarding has been around far longer than any of the doddering graybeards in the senate, has been the reason for the prosecution and imprisonment of soldiers and officers of the armies of many countries in this century and is proscribed by US law and international treaties.




BobHiggins :: US Senate Declares Torture "Peachy," Confirms Mukasey as "Grand Inquisitor"





The whackjob who calls himself "President of the United States" does not care about the law, in fact the very suggestion that the law might apply to him sends him into paroxysms of juvenile snorting and snickering.

His vice President and the former, now deposed Attorney General regard such things as the Geneva conventions as "quaint." The fact the "Democrats" in the Senate expected the gang of criminal psychopaths in the White House to send up a nominee for the highest legal office in the land who would be inclined to uphold the law, was absurd from the beginning.

It has been just over a year since about a dozen of the same "Democrats" voted in favor of the infamous "Military Commissions Act," a piece of "legislation" that reads more like it was enacted through the auspices a "Reichstag" of the last century than any American legislative body that I'm familiar with.

Chuck Schumer said it himself in a revealing oped in the NYT a couple of days ago, amid the firestorm of anger and disbelief over his announcement of  intent to vote for the Mukasey nomination in the Judiciary committee.

Judge Mukasey's refusal to state that waterboarding is illegal was unsatisfactory to me and many other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. But Congress is now considering - and I hope we will soon pass - a law that would explicitly ban the use of waterboarding and other abusive interrogation techniques. And I am confident that Judge Mukasey would enforce that law.
A Vote for Justice?

I fail to see where Schumer gains his expectations of confidence in the intentions of the "distinguished jurist" when the man has stated, in open public hearings, that he is unable to uphold the law.

Will we have to enact a series of bills specific to every heinous tortuous act, "The Extreme Removal of Fingernails Act" or the "No Genital Electrification Act of 2007?" The laws against torture are already on the books, written in the field manuals and etched into the history and legal traditions of the last century. Any child can understand that pulling a puppies ears, or swinging it by the tail is cruel and inappropriate behavior. Where shall we send our members of congress and other public officials to receive such training in fundamental humanity?

I am aware that the executive department of this country is in the control of a group of unrepentant thieves and worse, now I'm forced to face the fact that the Senate of the United Sates of America is populated with people who lack the understanding of right and wrong possessed by the average teenager.

Speaking to her support of Mukasey, Dianne Feinstein had this to say:

Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, said she was confident that Mr. Mukasey would be nonpartisan and that his refusal to make a judgment on torture without knowing all the facts of interrogation policy should not keep him from the post.

"This man has been a judge for 18 years," said Ms. Feinstein, who along with Mr. Schumer provided the key supporting votes to push Mr. Mukasey through the Judiciary Committee. "Maybe he likes to consider the facts before he makes a decision."
Mukasey Wins Vote in Senate, Despite Democrats' Doubts

Is this woman as stupid as she sounds?  The judgment on torture was made at Nuremburg,, in Tokyo, and in courts martial during the Vietnam war. Many many bestial acts, including waterboarding, were judged to be war crimes, to be criminal acts against humanity and people went to prison for their commission of or involvment  in their commission.

"Maybe he just like to consider the facts...?." No she's not stupid, she's just another transparent fraud, bought and paid for and masquerading as a servant of the people.

How did our "senatorial" presidential candidates perform in this test of principle, of fundamental morality? Pathetically. They did what candidates are expected to do in this quadrennial charade of electoral politics, they fell back on their old standby, abject cowardice. They simply abstained from voting on what may be one of the defining legal issues of our times.
Here's their story:

All five senators who are running for president -- Joseph R. Biden Jr., Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Christopher J. Dodd, all Democrats, and John McCain -- did not cast votes. The four Democrats had said they would not support Mr. Mukasey because of his equivocation during the confirmation hearings over whether waterboarding is torture. Mr. McCain has also denounced the interrogation method but he issued a statement last week saying he would vote to approve the nomination.
Mukasey Wins Vote in Senate, Despite Democrats' Doubts

Forty Democrats voted against this terrible nominee , enough to lend an appearance of the existence of an "opposition party,"  but the fix was in at the start,  most of the posturing was just that, a show,  just smoke and mirrors.

There is not a single Democrat who voted for Mukasey's nomination who should be retained for another term in the Senate, and of the candidates for president, we do not need another coward in that high office, we have suffered under the reign of a cruel and cowardly man for far too long and I'm afraid I see no one as yet who has proven themselves worthy of the office, nor of my vote, nor of my meager support.

Yesterday was yet another day of shame in America.
Bob Higgins
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Related Stories and links:
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Senate Confirms Mukasey By 53-40
Senate Confirms Pro-Torture, Anti-Constitution Mukasey As Attorney General
Waterboarding is not simulated drowning -- it is drowning




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BobHiggins, a broader perspective? (9.75 / 4)
Dearest BobHiggins . . .

Apparently "leadership" is a matter of convenience, cowardice, calculation.  I am unsure.

All five senators who are running for president -- Joseph R. Biden Jr., Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Christopher J. Dodd, all Democrats, and John McCain -- did not cast votes

I am certain this entire affair disgusts me.  Did you read the explanation Schumer offered.  Oh my.
I AM voting today to support Michael B. Mukasey for attorney general for one critical reason: the Department of Justice - once the crown jewel among our government institutions - is a shambles and is in desperate need of a strong leader, committed to depoliticizing the agency's operations.

The department has been devastated under the Bush administration. Outstanding United States attorneys have been dismissed without cause; career civil-rights lawyers have been driven out in droves; people appear to have been prosecuted for political reasons; young lawyers have been rejected because they were not conservative ideologues; and politics has been allowed to infect decision-making.

We are now on the brink of a reversal. There is virtually universal agreement, even from those who oppose Judge Mukasey, that he would do a good job in turning the department around. My colleagues who oppose his confirmation have gone out of their way to praise his character and qualifications. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, for one, commended Judge Mukasey as "a brilliant lawyer, a distinguished jurist and by all accounts a good man."

Most important, Judge Mukasey has demonstrated his fidelity to the rule of law, saying that if he believed the president were violating the law he would resign.

Should we reject Judge Mukasey, President Bush has said he would install an acting, caretaker attorney general who could serve for the rest of his term without the advice and consent of the Senate. To accept such an unaccountable attorney general, I believe, would be to surrender the department to the extreme ideology of Vice President Dick Cheney and his chief of staff, David Addington. All the work we did to pressure Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to resign would be undone in a moment.

I deeply oppose this administration's opaque policy on the use of torture - its refusal to reveal what forms of interrogation it considers acceptable. In particular, I believe that the cruel and inhumane technique of waterboarding is not only repugnant but also illegal under current laws and conventions. I also support Congress's efforts to pass additional measures that would explicitly ban this and other forms of torture. I voted for Senator Ted Kennedy's anti-torture amendment in 2006 and am a co-sponsor of his similar bill in this Congress.


I guess as long as you are not the victim of torture you can adopt a broader perspective?

It is only the giving that makes us what [who] we are. - Ian Anderson. Jethro Tull . . . Betsy
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[ Parent ]
Thanks Betsy and yes (11.00 / 1)
I did read it.
It embarrassed me as an American, a Democrat and a liberal.
Bob

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BobHiggins, I too am embarrassed (9.00 / 2)
Dearest BobHiggins . . .

I trusted you too had probably read the Schumer explanation and cringed.

I feel as you do.  A survey company called me a few days ago.  When asked for biographical data, I literally said to the woman on the telephone, I am embarrassed to be . . . At first she was so astounded, she asked me to repeat myself.  She could not believe her ears.  We chatted for a time and she appreciated my honesty.  I guess, all some of us have anymore is personal integrity.

I know I have said this before; nonetheless, I feel a need to repeat myself, reiterate, and be redundant.  Dianne Feinstein has never been a Democrat, at least not as I define the term.

It is only the giving that makes us what [who] we are. - Ian Anderson. Jethro Tull . . . Betsy
BeThink.org


[ Parent ]
The fix was in (8.00 / 3)
Harry Reid is a traitor.

These folks only look "stupid" (0.00 / 0)
to those who believe that they are voting their own conscience.  They are not.  bush now has his "Jewish lawyer" (I'm going to catch shit for using that pharse, I'm sure).  Let's see if the Zionist neo-cons can pull his chestnuts out of the fire of war crimes.  The Evangelical and securlarist warmongers couldn't get that  job done and I seriously doubt that his "Jewish" friends can help him work such a miracle.  They need a few of their own miracles at the moment.  Peace

Then why do you use the phrase? (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
I got that one (0.00 / 0)
The phrased is used because imhotep hates Jews.  Several people on this blog hate Jews. 

[ Parent ]
I don't think (9.00 / 1)
that there is any other way to say it.

You are a moron.

Bob Higgins

Bob Higgins Worldwide Sawdust


[ Parent ]
getting a little predictable? (7.50 / 2)
my solution is I'm going to go juggling and drinking all night... works for me.

-pyrrho-

I can't defend tweedle dee (0.00 / 0)
and tweedle dumb, and don't want to.

But Shumer is right about one thing; if they didn't vote in Mukasey, Shrub would pull a Caligula and appoint his horse during Thanksgiving....

oh, yeah, you're right the big man is skeered of horses....

his dog then...






"Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG


We got the worst of this deal (4.00 / 1)
By legitimizing Mukasey, the warmonger wing of the Democratic party has given bush wiggle room.  The Democratic Zionists do more damage to this country then any Republican could ever hope to do.  As example: the Democrats have everybody's eye off the ball and are about to pass a $460 billion dollar defense bill.  Thats 40% larger then Clinton's last  defense bill.  By separating out the $200 billion for Iraq and then appearing to have a food fight over it not only do we get a huge increase in the defense budget but in the end all $200 billion will go to Iraq anyway.  We all get the shaft and King David rides again.  Peace

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Bush should be waterboarded (6.00 / 1)
...you know...just to prove it's not really torture. cheney too. in fact, the whole crew, condi, rummy...all of them. I wonder how long before they screamed out that it WAS torture? I'm sure they wouldn't last long. bastards.

Sadie Yates
RIP
2003-2008


I see (0.00 / 0)
a time in the future when the children and grandchildren of the politicians who have sold our country will be the victims of their fathers, mothers, grandparents.  How could these people sell out their own families and their own generations that will follow.  They seem to think the laws they pass will not affect them personally... how naive, short sighted, ignorant.  Every vote, every statement, every action is being recorded and the ones who will pay the most are the direct descendents of the very people in power, woe to them and the hell they have wrought. To stand by as their grandchildren are waterboarded, I can only believe they are souless.

One Day Soon... (0.00 / 0)
these chickens will come home to roost.

Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of injustice, to undo the thongs of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,and bring the homeless poor into your house;

You're So Right Bob ... (0.00 / 0)
Thank you for this diary which puts it much better than most I've read in recent days. As for Schumer, I busted my ass for him here in New York in '98 when he challenged Al D'Amato whom I despised. I'll gladly bust my ass for any primary opponent he faced in 2010.

I'm a loyal Democrat but no way in hell will I vote for Schumer in 2010. I'll write in Mickey Mouse's name if I have to.

Intrepid Liberal Journal


Supercilious (0.00 / 0)
I don't mean to degrade your honest concern for these matters but the conflation of this topic in the annals of the United States, Western Democracy, Modern Times, Human History, Ice Ages, Tectonic Plate movements, Einstein, Super-String theory, the Big Bang is so infinitesimal, so conflated (for poltical reasons) it becomes parody.  It exists as some grain of sand in a gigantic beach of nothing.  ABC News confirmed that Three People were waterboarded and the last one was four years ago.  They all lived.  I realize you hate George Bush because (to you) he is a redneck, Jesus Freak, Thug.  This Republic will survive George W. Bush.  Will it survive the self indulgence and mental masturbation of people like you?  That, I'm not so sure of.  Having said that, you're my brother, we have such a short time in this world, so I accept you and your paranoid search for meaning in this cruel world.

You have (9.00 / 1)
absolutely no idea, how many people have been tortured, physically or mentally, using this or other methods by the criminals you insist on offering your support to.

George Bush is the privileged, spoiled, scion of  Eastern moneyed aristocrats masquerading as a redneck "for political purposes." 

Please, spare me your "brotherhood."

Bob Higgins
Worldwide Sawdust

Bob Higgins Worldwide Sawdust


[ Parent ]
I know one thing (0.00 / 0)
YOU really have NO "idea, how many people have been tortured..."  ABC News puts it a THREE.  You want there to be more because YOU would rather have people "suffer" if it fits your narrative about GW Bush.  It's about GW Bush to you and the various conflated notions of him you folks gin up on your left wing circle jerks.  I do like the irony.  KSM (who was waterboarded) is the Victim and Bush is the Criminal.  Wonder if Daniel Pearl would agree.

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