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I Loved Pain's Speech. Too Bad It Was a Disaster

by: thereisnospoon

Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 15:10:33 PM PDT






I loved Sarah Palin's speech last night.  No, really, I did.  As a student of rhetoric, I couldn't help but admire the poise, the confident delivery of cutting lines read with a smile, the deft moves from pulling the heartstrings with family stories to clever jokes about hockey moms and pitbulls to biting invective at political opponents.

It was a speech in the best Ciceronian tradition, delivered not with stentorian bombast but with the charm of your small-town neighbor and the visual appeal of a celebrity actress.

And it was an utter, unqualified failure.  As with so much else in her life, Palin may have gained greatly from her performance, leaving her a force to be reckoned with for years to come (assuming her myriad personal and political scandals don't sink her first), but she probably just hurt McCain's chances in 2008 as surely as she hurts everything else she touches.


thereisnospoon :: I Loved Pain's Speech. Too Bad It Was a Disaster

Already the results of two focus group projects in different places (Nevada and Michigan) already strongly suggest that Palin did not sway the independents or the Clinton supporters that she needed to in order to overcome their concerns about her experience.  Thing is, that shouldn't have come as any surprise to anyone who has ever done a political focus group this election season.

You see, I moderate focus groups for a living--mostly on the corporate side, but with some political work thrown in.  I've done a couple of projects for non-partisan 527s and NGOs who are nonetheless on the progressive side, talking about what matters this election season.  I was a precinct captain for the Obama campaign, talking to conservative Dems and independents.  I also live in a Republican district, and don't miss an opportunity to talk to regular voters about what's on their minds.  And anybody with half a brain who does this for a living could have told you that Palin's speech wouldn't work to persuade the independents and Clinton supporters McCain needs.

Without revealing too much (my clients' research results are proprietary), what I can tell you without hesitation are four universal factors:

1.  Most importantly, times are too tough and the public too worried about their economic security to sweat the small stuff.

2.  Issues trump personality this year.  I know we say this every election cycle, but it really is true this year.  People are apprehensive about the issues, and they're paying more attention than ever.  Allow me to give you a quote from a Republican I talked to in a focus group setting:

I like McCain personally.  He's a war hero.  I would have voted for him eight years ago, four years ago.  But the issues are way too important now.  People are in trouble.

3.  Voters have very low tolerance for partisan red meat this year.  This cuts both ways: voters no more want to hear about the reasons we got into Iraq (though many acknowledge it was for oil) than they want to hear about God, guns or gays.  They want solutions.

4.  Economics trumps all.  Only in the Midwest does Iraq play even a close second fiddle to economic concerns.  Voters want solutions to stagnant wages, massive debts, gas prices, healthcare and a host of other economic concerns.  They're sinking, and they want the government to do something.

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By all four of those measures, Sarah Palin's speech was an absolute disaster.

1. In an election where the voters find "small" unappealing and want big, bold solutions to weighty problems, Palin's speech did little but extol the virtues of small: small towns, small government, small-scale issues and small-ball politics.  She gave voters nothing profound, no inventive solutions or even inventive perspectives.  At the end of the day, voters still had no idea what she would do to solve their problems.

In fact, she did spend an inordinate amount of time criticizing Democrats for wanting to increase the size of government.  In an environment where voters are worried that politicians are selling out government infrastructure and not paying attention to job losses, and where "high taxes" don't even break the top five issues, selling the governor's plane on eBay and firing the governor's cook aren't exactly selling points.

2.  As a personality on stage, she was terrific.  Too bad that voters aren't really interested in personality this year.  They want problems solved, they want change and they want answers. Sarah Palin talked a lot about her family and her values, but she provided no answers and talked very little about the issues that matter most to Americans.

3. It was a great piece of Ciceronian oratory--but like most Ciceronian oratory, it was nasty, cutting, vicious and full of divisive red meat.  It was exactly the sort of grating partisan rhetoric that voters have said repeatedly they are turned off by.

4.  Outside of oil drilling, there was almost nothing about core economic issues in her speech.  In fact, they were so assiduously avoided that I can't help but wonder if independent voters felt almost insulted by the nonchalance of it all.  Coupled with Rudy 9/11's rhetoric about "giving workers the right to work", Republicans clearly have no understanding what the problem is.  It's not that workers can't find jobs necessarily: it's that the jobs they can find don't pay enough to cover the bills.

What she did manage to do without a doubt is motivate and mobilize to a certain degree the evangelical base.  But Republicans must take that for granted, else Obama will win in a devastating landslide.  What the Palin pick was designed to do was appeal to independents and to Hillary's voters.  By that measure, I'm almost certain that she flopped terribly.  I could be horribly wrong, of course, but already the data are appearing to bear me out.

Of course, insofar as the speech was written for her she may escape much of the blame for this debacle.  But that doesn't matter now: she gave the speech.  She owns it.

And now the GOP will get to pay the price.


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Oh hey (0.00 / 5)
are they still calling you "thereisnorape" around here or was that just the PFF bunch?  I thought you got run off for the one time you made the mistake of bucking the party line round here.

[ Parent ]
No, DavidByron, they are not. (6.00 / 1)


And thank you SO much for bringing up that ridiculous blip on our radar. Douchebaggy, to say the least.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

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Well that's really the only way I know him. (0.00 / 0)
I thought it was all very brave of him to take on the sisterhood like that.  But he did get his ass handed to him.  I defended him at PFF (I think - not here since I was banned?) where there was some half hearted attempts by the same feminist set which obviously failed completely in a no-ban environment.

It's a good example of how censorship forces won the argument by destroying the messenger here.  TINS was quite right about what he said but you'd never have had a chance to hear it.

I'm not sure why you call it a "blip".  It very much typifies my thinking about this place.  Sensible analysis shouted down by bloodthirsty partisans.


[ Parent ]
dude, just leave it alone (8.00 / 2)
honestly, a progressive message board/blog isn't the best place for libertarian views on sex and alcohol.  I screwed up and have the scars.  Just move on.

[ Parent ]
Spoon, as proprietor of this blog, I apologise. (0.00 / 0)


I wish I'd advocated more strongly for YOUR freedom of speech.

I was weakened by my own health and personal problems, but it's a puny excuse; I was MORE weakened by my own craven desire to follow the herd. I left you hanging out to dry, I threw you under the bus, and I'm so fucking sorry I wasn't there for you more.

I'm sorry. I TOTALLY thought you were in the wrong, in terms of the ARGUMENT'S POSITIONS; doesn't mean JACKSHIT when it comes to the PRINCIPLES. I fucked you, dude.

Forgive me, please.  

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


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GODDAMNIT SPOON!!! (0.00 / 0)


NO LINK BACK TO MLW in the dkos VERSION?????

JESUS HUSSEIN CHRIST, MAN!!!

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
ack (7.00 / 1)
forgot.  Will do next time.

[ Parent ]
Bingo. (9.67 / 3)


It might as well have been Pat Buchanan in an ill-fitting and poorly colour-coordinated suit (catty moment -- BLEARGH: who CHOSE that suit???).

Palin's speech was, in fact, the perfect mirror of her hero's 1992 speech.

Guess who won that year?

In 1992, I sat in my friend Christopher's living room in Manhattan watching the Democratic convention.

As the first notes of Fleetwood Mac's Don't Stop (Thinkin' About Tomorrow) began, I felt ghostly chills shatter my spine. They didn't creep -- they SHATTERED. I knew, like I'd never known anything before, that Bill Clinton had just won the election.

Just as I knew, when that SHOCKINGLY surprising musical choice -- COUNTRY??? What a fucking stroke of GENIUS! -- struck up after Obama's speech ended in Denver: HE JUST WON THIS ELECTION. And nothing -- NOTHING, no red meat, no VP selection, no October surprise, no rhetorical flourishes -- the Republicans did could change it.

And certainly this baffling hate-festival marks their desperation, as certainly as their 1992 version did.

Thank you for this, Spoonmeister. Your wisdom is always a welcome respite from my reflexive emotionalism...

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


Well if a refusal to throw red meat is good (0.00 / 0)
then Obama should be ahead by 20 points because he's done nothing but shit on his base since he beat Clinton, and McCain's done nothing but suck up to his (Palin being the biggest example).

But I rather think the exact opposite is true.

And Pat Buchanan praised Obama's speech on MSNBC.  They had to cut him off because he went on for too long about how great it was, although he did note that it was in no way a liberal speech, which I agree with.


[ Parent ]
May I make a suggestion? (6.00 / 1)
Don't do this:

HE JUST WON THIS ELECTION. And nothing -- NOTHING, no red meat, no VP selection, no October surprise, no rhetorical flourishes -- the Republicans did could change it.

Don't do it to yourself, and don't do it to the people who read you.

In the spring of 2005, my other half and I wound up in counseling. No big deal, I know a lot of couples go to counseling. But the reason we were there - I'm really serious - was because of the 2004 election. There was no way any rational society could turn this psychopath loose on the world for another four years. It just couldn't happen - you might as well try to tell me that rain fell up and the sky is magenta. There was no room in my reality for a second Bush term. When the election results came back I can't even begin to describe how I felt. And with time, it got worse. When he was sworn in for the second time, I snapped a little, and went into a deep depression, layered with a heaping helping of denial. It put a big strain on my relationship.

The 2008 election is far from over. We still have their "October Surprise" to go through. We still have a strained relationship with Russia and incipient rumblings of a new Cold War. We're still in Iraq and Afghanistan and there's no telling what treats those places might be able to dish out between now and 11/4. And we have the same psychopath - the one some people openly questioned whether he'd allow an election - in charge of our responses to all of it. Oh, yeah, and we still have those Diebold voting machines. No one has won anything yet.


[ Parent ]
Point taken. (0.00 / 0)


Lots of work to be done.

But I still think it will be won.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
and we get... (6.00 / 2)
... to watch her son's service affect the legislation... "Died capturing Bin Laden..." on nov 1.

-pyrrho-

[ Parent ]
Now that's a chilling thought (6.00 / 2)
Are they really that craven?

Oh, gods, now I'm depressed.

Insert witty quote here.


[ Parent ]
I think you'd be better of reminding yourself it doesn't matter who wins. (4.67 / 3)
Remember 2006?  All that crap about Pelosi saying she'd end the war?  What happened there?  Pelosi's congress was a bigger suck up to Bush than the previous Republican Congress had been.

Yes, things actually got a little worse from that point of view, as a result of the Democratic landslide victory.

People laugh when McCain tries to run as the candidate of change but the fact is Congress has been Demcoratic for 18 months now, both houses.  An astonishing turn around but it did nothing.  To a large extent the last 18 months have been a Democratic government.

On the Iraq score in fact the progress that's been made is due to Bush.  He's climbed down from "no timetables for withdrawal" to propose something shorter than Obama.  Bush, Obama and McCain now have essentially identical policies.


[ Parent ]
you bastard (7.00 / 4)
stop writing opinions that make sense to me you are getting me all confused.

-pyrrho-

[ Parent ]
maryscott (0.00 / 0)
you know the superficial level of politics you see so clearly but dislike... i.e. why Kucinich could never be president... admit it, Palin passes ALL those tests... Pat in drag would not, by a long shot.

Am I wrong?

-pyrrho-


[ Parent ]
I don't understand your point, pyrrho. (0.00 / 0)


How does Palin pass what test?

To me, she is everything cynical in politics -- on the right wing side.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
she ... (0.00 / 0)
... has an attractive family, does not look like an elf, and so on.  She is palatable in plenty of shallow ways.

-pyrrho-

[ Parent ]
What she also did (7.33 / 3)
was rouse and motivate, across the board, the left-of-center and left.

Lukewarm Obama supporters can't help but be angered by her condensension and sarcasm.

Thank's Sarah for doing what the most masterful Dem pols couldn't.

Now go get some more graft for Alaska, Sarah. Don't quit yer day job....





"Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG


$8 Million. $8 Million. $8 Million. (8.00 / 1)


Nice, round number.

Sarah Palin: The $8 Million Woman.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
$8,000,060... (8.67 / 3)
I really wanted that Obama/Biden door magnet.

;)





"Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG


[ Parent ]
George Stephanopolous (9.00 / 1)
(no I'm not going to check the spelling, because I don't give a shit) just said the number is expected to be $10 million before McCain's speech is over tonight.

And the Republicans?  According to George, they raised $1 million from Palin's speech.  

I like that ratio.  A lot.

Insert witty quote here.


[ Parent ]
Make that $10 Million. (7.00 / 3)


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
She was picked for the religious right (6.00 / 1)
I don't see why you'd think she would appeal to Clinton supporters, or why you think McCain would have thought that.

"It was exactly the sort of grating partisan rhetoric that voters have said repeatedly they are turned off by."

Are you saying that you think negative attacks are bad politics?  because that's the opposite of what everyone else says.  You seem to be equating what the focus group says they think with what they actually think.  People always say that negative attacks turn them off and yet they work very well is the way I've always heard it.  On that basis she was a big success.

In that sense are focus groups that useful for predicting voting behaviour?


Give Credit To Leni Riefenstahl (8.50 / 2)
For that grotesque spectacle of foaming at the mouth hatred for American ideals wrapped up in the innocuous skirt of a 'hockey mom'.

A sickening display of all that has gone so terribly awry with the US as it has been transformed into Der Homeland.

The most putrid part of it all is how the same 'media' that sold us all the big lie of the war in Iraq are now grovelling at the feet of the 'New Reagan'.

Goebbels would have been proud.

My two reichmarks

EE

"Every Decent Man Is Ashamed Of The Government He Lives Under"-H.L. Mencken


As the great Molly Ivins said of Buchanan's 1992 speech, (8.50 / 4)


"It was better in the original German."

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
I think Gov. Palin is (7.00 / 2)
the Dave Schultz of Hockey Moms.

[ Parent ]
I had a different response (6.60 / 5)
I thought it was interesting that she totally bagged the whole million cracks in the glass ceiling thing.  I'm guessing what happened is that they gave up on the independent/moderate/undecided voters and decided instead to try to GOTV among the base.  For awhile it was seeming that Obama was motivating the left to come out in full force and the right had no one so motivating that they might just stay home.  Just my take.

"All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien

Agreed (6.00 / 1)
They can't seriously think a rightwing fundie like Palin would appeal to Hillary supporters, just because she is female. That's condescending beyond belief.  She was put on the ticket to appease the Christian right, who have always thought McCain was as likable as the anti-christ.

In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

[ Parent ]
and Biden was put on the ticket... (6.00 / 1)
... to appease the Beltway?  The Clintons?  Who the fuck does he appease.

Seems like same old same old, I hope it's as far as Obama will go following Democratic Party CW.

-pyrrho-


[ Parent ]
RE: Biden (0.00 / 0)
Is the Senator representing the Usury State - wanna talk about fixing those bankruptcy laws...

fuggedaboutit!!!

EE

ps - It's fascism vs. fascism lite this time but there is a BIG difference in that we can finally pound a stake through the heart of Reaganism!

Let's stop the house from burning down and then worry about getting the furniture out for a change.


"Every Decent Man Is Ashamed Of The Government He Lives Under"-H.L. Mencken


[ Parent ]
I laughed out loud (0.00 / 0)
when I read that part of Obama's acceptance speech.  Fix the bancruptcy laws.  With Biden chosen as VP only a few days before.  Might as well have pocked his base in the eye.

And nobody in the media mentioned it except on CNN International.  Amazing how much better their coverage was than any of the other US based news channels.


[ Parent ]
Are we missing an "L"? (7.75 / 4)
Nah, come to think of it, it's fine the way it is.


oh lol (7.00 / 1)
yeah, we'll just leave it ;-)

[ Parent ]
Oh, it worked. (0.00 / 0)


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
Best. Typo. EVER? (0.00 / 0)


Maybe second to AP's "Lieberman: Vice Presidential PRICK" one...

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
Is it just me (7.80 / 5)
or does she look like a rabid hamster in that picture. Watch your fingers kids! She'll GETCHA!

-deano

Deano! (6.00 / 4)
Good to see you!  Hope you stick around, we're in for a wild ride between now and November.

Insert witty quote here.

[ Parent ]
Hey puzzled! (7.00 / 2)
Good to see you too! I just may.

Hope you're well.

-deano


[ Parent ]
I wish you would quit calling Obama supporters "the left" (0.00 / 0)
The actual left know better.  No doubt most of his supporters are less right wing than he is, but they are hardly socialists.

I recall in 2004 there was even talk of McCain as VP to Kerry.  And of course Lieberman went from VP candidate in 2000 to anti-Christ in 2008 though I don't see him as having changed at all.

There's a lot of hype.  The candidates are just not very different at all this year (are they ever?)


LOOK, DB3... (7.00 / 1)


The left, for lack of any OTHER fucking candidate...

... IS SUPPORTING OBAMA.

Yes, there are several RABIDLY LEFT WING PEOPLE out there who are NOT supporting Obama. They will be voting for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader.

All 4300 of them.

BUT... for the duration of this campaign, for the purposes of clarity and to SPARE OUR TYPING FINGERS, we're most of us gonna be calling ourselves "the left," "liberals," "Democrats" and so on and such-like, EVEN THOUGH many of us are NOT actually Democrats, even though we ACKNOWLEDGE that Obama ISN'T really all that LEFT WING or all THAT liberal.

M'kay? 'KAY.

THANKS EVER SO.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
Maryscott (3.00 / 1)
there are those on the active left, activists by nature, that think Democrats are the slow boil, and the Republicans, at least, will cause things to boil over faster.

just sayin'...  what you just said sounds like 2000 logic, and why it didn't matter that Lieberman pissed off leftists and made Gore look DLC instead of Green.

-pyrrho-


[ Parent ]
No (2.00 / 1)
Not alright.  Obama isn't left at all.  He's right wing.  Maybe at best center right.  And I haven't seen anyone on the left who I would call a supporter.

This whole horse race pantomime you have going, this whole good cop / bad cop fantasy thing is not really compatible with being a lefty.

You'd see it if it wasn't an election year.  You're just caught up in all the bullshit.


[ Parent ]
Screw that (0.00 / 0)
if you have something to say then say it instead of the bullshit down-rating.

You think Obama is left of center then explain to me why.

He's pro-war and pro-military, pro-military escalation too.  He's a tax cutter just like the Republicans are.  I remember when Bush fought two wars while cutting taxes people round here said it was awful.  Well guess what.  Now Obama's doing the same damn thing.

How you gonna pay for it?  Simple.  He's going to cut services as he said in his acceptance speech.

His tax cuts favour the middle class by 700 bucks a year compared to McCain.  That's about the size of it.

But he won't support socialised health care that the country desperately needs any more than McCain or any of them.  

The country needs change and he's more of the same.  Sure not as bad as Bush but Bush was the worst president ever according to historians (I disagree) so odds are very good even Palin wouldn't be as bad as Bush.  Bush is a pretty low bar.

He'll do a little on green issues and McCain would too, but too little too late.


[ Parent ]
Also (0.00 / 0)
stop calling me DB"3" and I won't have to call you "Mary".

[ Parent ]
You prefer I call you David? (0.00 / 0)


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
No it's the "3" I didn't like. (4.00 / 1)
DB is fine.

[ Parent ]
re: swaying the Hillary supporters (9.00 / 1)
while the blogosphere pats itself on the back that Palin will not collect many wayward Hillary backers... wait, didn't we already pat ourselves on the back that NOTHING could do that for McCain and the so called PUMAs were an illusion anyway?  So how does it matter that she won't do that.

This was a gift to the base, something Democrats do. As kos says in his salon interview, Democrats could win on that now (he says we never could before)... but also points out we are not running that kind of campaign "but we could!".

Democrats are the ones that try to choose Democrats to appeal to Republicans, Republicans don't do that nearly so often... possibly because it's rarely worked in the last 50 years.

-pyrrho-


personality always matters (7.00 / 1)
and people go for read meat even when they say they are full, they are addicted to the stuff.  

People may think they want issues, but they get overloaded and confused if there is too much of it, of a bullet list of policies.  So all she really has to do is stake a clear stand on an issue or two and then work the reputation that gets her... which she did.

oh, spoon, personality always matters, it's what matters first and last. We are too well informed to realize that very easily, I think.

Cute disadvantaged baby on stage!

-pyrrho-


pyrrho, I think you missed the point. (0.00 / 0)


Personality matters to the BASE. Not to the middle ground.

The middle ground isn't all that THUH-RILLED by this lady. They are, in fact, turned off in DROVES by this lady. And they were actually turned the fuck OFF by her shrill, shrieking nastiness and her USING of that cute little Down syndrome baby and by all that rhetoric with absolutely no solutions to their very REAL problems.

And they LISTENED to Obama's speeches and they heard ACTUAL solutions.

And they LIKE his personality.

You know what they saw in HER personality?

See today's Daily Rant.

Because that's what they saw.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
ok, I'll look (0.00 / 0)
and I'm waiting to see the reactions while I make my predictions.

During the speech the cspan camera cut to the baby in the audience, being held by the youngest daughter, who was trying to brush down his hair, then licking her hand and trying to brush it down. It was absurd and a little gross and TOTALLY FUCKING CUTE AS HELL.  Sweet. No one could have told that girl to act that way, she loves her little brother (nephew, whatever... cue Chinatown scene).

I think they will like her.  Many won't want to vote for her even though they like her, but they will like her and her X-gamesesque husband.

I think it can be overcome, Obama knows the way, the Democratic Party and blogshills have no fucking clue however and are quite ready to walk into the traps now ready.

-pyrrho-


[ Parent ]
Obama's girls were cuter (7.00 / 1)
And they seem bright and personable.

Piper is just a doughy lump.  

But examination of the available data leads only to the conclusion that the biggest beneficiary of the Bush Presidency is Warren Harding. (Steve Mirsky, "Antigravity", SciAm 10/05)
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est. (Latin for All Occasions)


[ Parent ]
she has a beautiful family (0.00 / 0)
I think.

Come on mirrim... :(

-pyrrho-


[ Parent ]
WHAT "middle ground"? (0.00 / 0)
Turned off "in droves" yet the race remains tight?  Sounds like the middle are non-existent.

And then you claim Nader supporters don't matter but apparently they were enough to lose Gore the election in 2000.


[ Parent ]
You are SO in touch.. (0.00 / 0)
hee hee...I've flip-flopped since this morning!

Yes, it doesn't matter how freaking corrupt or incompetant or wrong she is...they will STILL vote for her.  Look at bush!  (I meant Bush, not bush.)


[ Parent ]
actually... (0.00 / 0)
I was surprised to find, in school today, (santa monica - very liberal), that they LOVED her.

Even the people who didn't agree with ANY of her positions thought she was very good.  

Do you think American has the finesse to say they like her but not vote for her?  


And speaking of focus groups... (0.00 / 0)

Granted, that was before her speech last night.  

"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker


that's not a real focus group (7.00 / 1)
that's, well, I don't know what to call that.  But don't disparage it by calling it a "focus group".  ;-)

[ Parent ]
Umm... (0.00 / 0)
I'm not the one who labeled it a focus group. That's how it was billed and that's what Frank Luntz prides himself on. His focus groups. Personally, I think Luntz is a joke, but I didn't post it for any of those reasons. I posted it for the opinions expressed within it.  

"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker

[ Parent ]
Frank Luntz's name... (7.00 / 2)


Whenever I see it, the letters just... rearrange themselves.

I don't even need to spell it out for you, do I?

But I will.

L-u-n-t-z . . . =

P - u - t - z

Sometimes, it comes out...

c - u - n - t - z

It just WORKS OUT THAT WAY in my brain! I swear.

I have a lizard brain just like everyone else. The fact that it's more VERBALLY oriented than the average lizard brain is happenstance, I'm sure.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
I know what you mean. (9.00 / 2)
But it plays out differently in my head. I think of some names as descriptors, like in a Restoration comedy. To me Luntz is a  contraction for lumbering dunce.

"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker

[ Parent ]


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