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President Obama? Meet President Gorbachev.

by: Arthur Gilroy

Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 14:22:46 PM PDT



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Jeff Huber wrote yet another fine article recently, this one titled Enduring Blunder. (Sounds like one of those macho U.S. military names for their failed campaigns, doesn't it? Operation Desert Storm. Operation Iraqi Freedom. Operation Enduring Thunder. And the truth of the matter. Operation Enduring Blunder. Yup.)  

In it he quite justly criticized the military and political establishment of this country for its shortsightedness in every aspect of international policy. ObamaCo just as much as BushCo.

But...he didn't go far enough.

The problem does not lie only with the political or military segments of this culture. It is everywhere at present, and it threatens to burn us right down to the ground.

Soon.

Just like The U.S.S.R went down.

Obama may just  turn out to be our Gorbachev. A well-meaning, highly intelligent and politically gifted (relative) liberal who got caught in the riptides of history.

Maybe we have just gotten too fucking big.

Read on for more.


Arthur Gilroy :: President Obama? Meet President Gorbachev.

Jeff wrote:

We won't make western democracies out of either of our Bananastans.  We won't eliminate corruption.  We won't stem opium production.  If we effect regime change we'll just be swapping out puppets.  It's too late to keep them from becoming failed states because they already are.

The only problem with this statement is that it doesn't go far enough. He wrote:"...either of our Bananastans" and "It's too late to keep them from becoming failed states because they already are."

The truth of the matter is that we actually must deal with three failed states.

And the U.S. is the third one.

It's just so big that no one wants to come out and say so.

I have been writing on the web since 2003 about this failed state. Most often I use the phrase "rotted through and through" and I will stick to that idea here. Nothing is working here. Nothing. Not the mail, not the corporations, not the government, not the media, not the educational system, not the financial system, not the health system.

Nothing.

I also call it "the Verizonization of America" because I first realized it clearly while standing in a crowded Verizon store on Central Avenue in Yonkers, NY (a mostly working class suburban city outside of New York) somewhere around the year 2000  with my then-13 year old son. Nothing whatsoever was working. The crowd control was non-existent; the parking lot was in total chaos; the help had no idea about the products and services that they were supposed to be selling; the customers were stupid, angry and abusive both to each other and to the staff...a disaster in the making. I left after 10 minutes and just barely beat the arrival of the equally abusive Yonkers cops as they poured in to quell the mini-consumer riot that was brewing. My son and I sat across the road in our car and watched. It was deep.

It is now much deeper.

I could just as easily call it the McDonaldsization or the Micrososftization or the Citibankization or the Mass Mediaization of America.

We done got too big.

Too fucking big.

It's not power that corrupts, it is size. Over-complexity.

What we have here now is a failed state. Perhaps the largest, most powerful failed state in the history of the world. Certainly the most dangerously armed example of the species ever to exist.

The Tyrannosaurus Rexization of America.

And you know what happened to those bad boys, don't you?

They got taken down by "circumstances beyond their control."

And when they went down, who ate them?

Relatively weak, furry little critters.

Like these fools.

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Yup.

Bet on it.

As above, so below, if we do not get our shit together and get it together soon.

Walt Kelley was right. We have met the enemy, and it is us.

The big enemy.

The big big, BIG failed state.

The United States of Enronization.

The Madoffness of it all.

Many people are now predicting the fall of the United States. The big breakup. Back in the U.S.S.R. redux.

Look at this map.

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Look, please, and not in any sort of partisan way.

As could be plainly seen during the end of the Bush era and right on through the 2008 election, the Limbaughs have a solid 30+% of this country in terms of population. Then there is the so-called "swing vote" and the solid 20%-30% that is Democratic. Capture about 1/2 of the swing vote and you win. It's that simple. Obama did it, the old man didn't. BUT...besides getting over 45% of the total vote, the Reds also won in what looks to be about 80% in terms of land.

UH oh!!!

My guess is that they also have well over 60% or 70% of the military.

Oh SHIT!!!

Check it out.  The red nation is mostly rural and thus very hard to control while the blue nation is mostly urban and thus siege worthy at the very least.

Modern seige. YOU know...turn off the power, stop the food supply, blockade the egress routes  and sit back and watch 'em self-destruct?

Yup. Like that.

My guess is that NYC would go down in under a week. LA even quicker. (They're not so used to scuffling, them left coast softies.) Others would follow.

Where's yer Blue State then motherfuckers?

"Ohhhh...THAT couldn't happen!!!" say the bourgeois leftiness softies.

Wise the fuck up. Of course it could. Why do you think the Romans tried to keep various generals and their legions out in the sticks after the wars were won?

OR lost.

Barack Obama likes to compare himself and his position to Lincoln's. Let us all pray that he doesn't get that for which he apparently longs. I suspect that the result wpuld be radically different this time around.

Jeff, let me ask you this question. What percentage of the personnel that comprise the U.S. military...and I am talking here about personal ties, not oaths of service, duty or any other subjective ideas...what percentage of that personnel is intimately connected by blood and history to the red portions of the above map and what percentage is connected to the blue areas?

Hmmmm....

Maybe we're actually better off with the military engaged in unwinnable wars in the Absurdistans for a while longer, eh? Rather than winnable ones at home?

That's what I am smelling, anyway.

I hope that I am wrong, but the stench is growing unbearable to me.

Admittedly, I've got a keen sense of smell, but there it is.

Let us pray that it is just a passing odor.

Some skunk or stinking possum lumbering by downwind.

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Let us pray.

Or be preyed upon.

Watch.

We are all Watchmen, now. Watching the tides of history and hoping that there are no tsunamis in the immediate offing.

Watch.

And like I said...let us pray.

Later...

AG


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Hunker down, folks.

The big, BIG show's jest gettin" started!!!

Bet on it.

AG

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Easy internet test for your personal neck of the woods.

Auto loans Used car anything beyond 48 month term
Get any rate quotes?  Did ya?

Compassionate personal bailout possibilities.  

Hey look unemployment runs out soon.  What is left of my 401 would keep me going for two maybe three years but no.  Maximum destruction is what they want.

The fine print of the Pork-us package shows the "green" initiatives of "upgading" the power grid are really a metering/rationing scam as are the health care single payer/rationing system which of course like Massachusetts you will have to buy.

And I don't need digital TV as after 30 seconds of it's infantilisms,it's Satanically inspired society corrupting subliminals and "news" pieces written specifically to support the 14 characteristics of fascism I have to first take a bath and then do cleansing meditation.

And what's up with the map and the election?  Come off it.  Obama did it?  More like McCain blowing his foot off with Dick's shotgun, Sarah Palin, Jesus H Christ.

Even the propaganda media made a huge deal about Obama and the swearing in oath of office.  Those words "I will faithfully EXECUTE the office of president.....

Like the Russian connection though cause my former Russian boss said "Now I have lived in two socialist countries."  And that was in the 1980s.

Dystopia, think Dune, Mad Max,Gattica and soylent green.

Surfing the Apocalypse-So you don't have to!


I too was proud to be banned (9.00 / 1)
in under 48 hours from Hannity.com and I found it mostly a pre-pubescent back patting society trying to model itself after the PC memes supposedly promoted exclusively by radical left wing places.  God, did you people really follow that thought train?

The galactic cognitive dissonance for me comes from another source tonight in this great orange Satan post from George Lakoff.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...

Surfing the Apocalypse-So you don't have to!


[ Parent ]
You're regressing (5.00 / 2)
you're now a cheerleader for the "Late Great Planet Earth" meme. If AIG and Lehman hadn't dove into the Credit Default Swap market.  If Bob Rubin and Phil Gramm hadn't greased the skids for the deregulation or total non regulation of credit derivatives, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  This will play itself out.  Won't be pretty but it will play itself out.

People are resilient.  You're projecting your own personal failings upon your countrymen and fellow human beings.  It's the worst kind of cowardice.  You peddle your nihilism to fill some empty space.....it's not working is it?  Still empty.

Bet on it.


If you (0.00 / 0)
or if I walked out of a bank with a trillion dollars prison would follow.

They do it to drug lords all the time, er those not protected by the CIA at least.  Words of Mass Diversion, those AIG did this and Lehman did that? Who cares, it's all the same theft.  It's all the same breadline.

Surfing the Apocalypse-So you don't have to!


[ Parent ]
You're Right (0.00 / 0)
they should be in Jail but the Government sanctioned most of it.  My point was about causation.

[ Parent ]
A trillion dollars (6.00 / 1)
If you walked out of the bank with a trillion dollars, it would probably be a bad check with too many zeros.

You don't walk a trillion dollars out of a bank.  Most you can usually do is in the tens of thousands with a significant number of quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies.  For that you go to jail.

You steal a trillion dollars from a bank by developing an new derivative or being so trusted that they don't notice that you are running a Ponzi scheme (well maybe not a trillion but in the billions).

The rule here is like in loans.  If you owe the bank ten thousand dollars and you can't pay, it's your problem.  If you owe the bank a trillion dollars and you can't pay, it's the bank's problem.  And if they're in the current financial climate, it's also the government's problem.

Guess what, that trillion dollars was on paper and it disappeared as soon as the problem was sniffed out.

And those billions of dollars in bonuses won't mean squat if no one is producing goods and services anymore.  You might find that that guy or gal in your breadline was one of those who got those golden parachutes.

That's the way it is at the apocalypse, dontcha know.

Want a third party -- 50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts -- Go get 'em


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AG, a research question (0.00 / 0)
In which of those red counties have you performed in the last year?

What did you see there that validated your argument in this diary?

Want a third party -- 50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts -- Go get 'em


Lemme see... (0.00 / 0)
Since last March? (Not just worked, but traveled and stayed a couple of times.)

In order of occurrence:

Hardtack Massachusetts. 30 miles outside of Worcester. Drove up, hung with some bad boys who were working on my car, took a bus mack to NY. You ca]n learn a lot in a working class New England bar when your sponsor is the baddest racing driver and bar fighter in the area. You learn a lot in bus stations and busses, too. Ours broke down in Hartford so I had a good long time to soak shit up.

Rural Vermont...by car, so's I got a good taste of the feel when I stopped to eat, get gas and also when stayed overnight in a crappy motel.

Savannah, GA. If you lissen hard you kin hear the pigs squealin' just a few miles away. I hung out at night down by the water. Interesting crowd there, too. Old southern gentlemen with lynching blood still under their fingernails, talkin' O so nice wf us Yankee assholes.

Drove up to Bennington, VT from NYC. I take the back roads when I'm not in a rush. Chat wif the folks when I get a chance. Ever been outside of Troy, NY on a nasty night? Another interesting crowd. Big bellied Irish bar fighters on unemployment. Studying judo. Yup.

Drove to Ithaca from NYC. Three day trip. Ithaca is an island of college culture surrounded by a redneck ocean. Again...get off the main roads and eat at the local diners if your gut can handle the grease. And listen.

Nyack, NY. Just up the river from NYC. Every ten miles is a year or two further into the past.

Setauket, L.I. The past arrives even faster.

A couple of days in New Jersey.

Patterson, Jersey City and then up into the rural north. Like going from old segregated Harlem to old segregated white Mississippi. Bet on it.

Garfield, NJ and then truly rural Maine. For a week, hanging with family. Thomaston, Belfast, Stockton Springs. More McCain/Palin signs than you can shake a stick at, and friends of family that I would not even think talking to approvingly about Obama without a good stout baseball bat in my hand. Fox News EVERYWHERE!!! In the banks. At the Dunkin' Donuts. In the pickup truck. Bet on that as well. Silence is the best tactic. I follow it assiduously. maine guys are BIG!!! It looks like fat...but it ain't. It's alla that cold, stored up as anger. Cross 'em and see.

Lacrosse, WI. Another college town, near the headwaters of the Mississippi. A mixed race NYC band with some visible attitude. The cops watching us watching them. On the street, at the gig, at the airport. Yup.

Wilmington, DE. The northernmost outpost of the old south. My nephew used to have a fine restaurant in the tiny, gentrified middle of the city. The surroundings? Scared the shit out of me. White and black. Still do. All along I-95 between NYC and DC. Go 5 miles in any direction away from I-95 and look for the Aryan Brotherhood. They're there. In that bar over there by the side road.

Anaheim, CA. Orange county. The Orange Curtain. Disney, dogs and deterrents. Reagan country. They think he's still alive. Well, hell. Walt is. Sorta. Why not Ronnie?

Plus stints in London, rural France, Johannesburg, Morocco and a couple of urban Americas that are not all that different from NYC.  Oakland, Detroit, Philly, Boston, Chicago.

What did I see that validated my argument above?

I saw a land just FULL of Joe the Plumbers and Sarah Palins, and much worse versions of them, too. Too many fat, stupid, lazy, devolved shotgun-carrying motherfuckers on speed. I can pass...I really can. It's in my genes somewhere, so's I can walk into the hyena's den and not get my bones cracked iff'n I'm real careful.

And I have the ear.

i hear it.

The nose, too.

They're out there and I will bet you that they are even madder now that the Fox NewsShysters are revving 'em up over the financial collapse and Obama giving it all away to the richest and poorest, leaving them with their 12 year old pickups and 48 year old, used-up wives. (Forgive me, ladies...not you. Them. It''s the life that does it. Bad food, too many cigarettes, too much beer, too much ugliness, too many kids, not enough joy. Sorry. Don't shoot the messenger.)

Objective proof?

I use the FAT theory, myself.

Fuck All That.

If you see it, see it often, and see it in a lot of different places, it is it is GODDAMNED well there.

Enough?

AG

Government is the Entertainment Division of the Military-Industrial Complex.-Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
your disdain! (6.00 / 1)
it is palpable!

If you don't know what a platitude is, it's a platypus with an attitude. -Michael Ian Black

[ Parent ]
cleverguy, (2.00 / 2)
I do not know how familiar you are with the left political sites, but there is a small group of people who have bracketed themselves off into smaller and smaller enclaves that thrive on contempt.

This place, to be honest, used to be just rife with that stuff.

Gilroy is a hold-out.

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I'd love to see you and cleverguy hanging ij a lot of places where I have spent time. (0.00 / 0)
Love it.

They'd smell your pissy little San Francisco attitude in a Troy minute.

It's not "contempt"...well, it is for you...it is simply a recognition of what is. I am fucking friends with some of these folks. It is you who "despise" them. I am just describing them. The guys who rebuilt my fast car, my brothers, relatives  and their friends...I have no problem with them. In a sense they are victims of America just as much as are the tough guys who make the music I play. It's wimps like you who piss me off.

Go shopping. Buy some fancy food. Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think.

Tarheel asked me what I had seen that validated what I was saying about two Americas and I did. I actually live outside of both cultures. Quite possibly outside of everything. That's what the artist does. Live outside and observe. Without ANY judgements. (Well...there's always you and the Orange County assholes...)

Fat and stupid?

Yes.

Vicious?

Uh huh.

Did they have any choice in the matter?

I think not.

I suppose you didn't either. I'm just not evolved enough to forgive effete leftiiness fools, I guess.

Too bad.

So it goes.

I do keep trying...

AG



Government is the Entertainment Division of the Military-Industrial Complex.-Frank Zappa


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You are entirely discredited. (0.00 / 1)
You have suggested that Israel move to West Virginia.

Moronic.

You have suggested that people stop reading the news.

Also moronic.

You have suggested that scholarship is worthless.

Idiocy.

And nothing that you claim above resembles a response to anything that I have said.

Pure stupidity.

Gilroy, you're a fraud.

If I am wrong, you can show us just how it is that almost all academic research is fudged.

Dope.

That's your claim.

So, back it up.



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[ Parent ]
A jazz teaching story for you, fish. (0.00 / 0)

Questioner to the great jazz pianist Fats Walller:

Q-"What is swing, Mr. Waller?"

A-"If you don't know, I can't tell you."

Goodnight, fishie.

You don''t have a clue you and never will.

AG

Government is the Entertainment Division of the Military-Industrial Complex.-Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
dodging the question. (8.50 / 2)
How is all academic research fudged?  I don't think anyone asked about swing.

I'm actually beginning to think you're actually a right-wing agent undercover, trying to tear us apart and discredit the entire progressive movement.  Then again, maybe I'm giving them too much credit.  It seems more likely that you're just a fucking joke.  You're a nobody who desperately wants to be somebody, so you set yourself in opposition to everyone and everything.  No one is radical enough but you, no one is skeptical enough but you, and no one is cool enough but you.  

Actually, I was watching The Matrix last night, and I think you actually believe you're Morpheus.  One lone man out in an insane world, trying to wake everyone up, trying to free everyone's minds.  Well you know what?  You're not that.  You're a warped, frustrated, ignorant, and closed-minded jackass.  

I'm done listening to your nonsense, done giving you attention for your foolishness, done letting you troll me.  I only regret that it's taken me this long to put it all together.

If you don't know what a platitude is, it's a platypus with an attitude. -Michael Ian Black


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Instead of answering the question (0.00 / 0)
he runs hiding into obscurantism.

It would be as if in one of your grad seminars the prof asks a question and you reply contemptuously, "He knows doesn't speak and he who speaks doesn't know."

Which, of course, would be proof positive that you cannot answer the question.

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[ Parent ]
that just wouldn't happen (6.00 / 1)
if someone did that in a talk, seminar, or even in passing, they would be laughed out of the business.

I guess peer-review is a good thing.

If you don't know what a platitude is, it's a platypus with an attitude. -Michael Ian Black


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Another view (9.00 / 3)


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

Well.... (0.00 / 0)
Your raise some interesting points: and I like you, smell something- smelled it for sometime- then again I think you are Wrong.

First up... NYC would fall before LA.  The Left Cost has Earthquake kits! And pools which means people would have Water and food! LA also has Oranges, Avocados, you know things you can eat that Grow on Trees (that's right some magical fairy doesn't place them in that box overnight at your local market) They Grow outside in peoples yards (a yard is a big patch of land behind your house) a house is kind of like an apartment... oh never mind.

Second- This is NOT President Obama fault, it is BUSHES Fault and now all of us will pay and keep paying... not with Hope. But with Money- and pain, tears and sweat (maybe blood but I Hope not)  

Third- The Red part of your map looks to be mostly Farm country- "I unlike you am not afraid of a second civil war." Riots maybe, civil unrest ok, but civil war?? come on, I don't think so... That being said- I do see farm country fairing much better under the new economic meltdown (Clears her throat... Depression) Hold on- this is very different from The Depression of 1929. Closer to the Panic of 1873. An awful time... but it only last for about 4 years- unless you lived in Europe (oh no in this case we are more like Europe and China is the US) and then there was the after affects: anti-Semitism throughout Europe and Russia - The Breadbasket had someone to Blame (oh no, it was the Jews fault (my fault). And lets us not forget the spread of fundamental Christians or what would later be called the First Awakening in USA... Shit, it was a truly terrible, horrible thing.

Try and Remember what Separates this Depression from the other three that came before in American history we humans can no longer sustain ourselves- We don't have enough resources to go around.

This has been true for sometime even if most people are unaware of the problem.

Watch-
Darwin's Nightmare

Plot- A documentary on the effect of fishing the Nile perch in Tanzania's Lake Victoria. The predatory fish, which has wiped out the native species, is sold in European supermarkets, while starving Tanzanian families have to make do with the leftovers

http://www.darwinsnightmare.com

In the Film The President of Tanzania states "Africa doesn't has a food problem it has a money problem" This is True- The problem in most third world countries isn't food- its Money. (I wrote most not All- China has a Food problem and they know it... others do as well)

Where I live: They grow Bananas, Coffee, Rice, Chocolate, extra... The best crops are shipped out of the country- for the world markets....

Why, because that's where the money is (humm was??)

I'm sorry I digress (it the whole blaming the Jews in the Breadbasket that scarred the living shit out of me) Back on track now, going back to the map... The red area (dare I say the breadbasket?) is in much better shape: As I stated already they have the land and their children know where Milk comes from...and it's not the supermarket. (I hope they also know that Jews do not control the Banks- I mean lots of Christians Run Banks!!!!!) "Just breath Beach everything will be fine"

So instead of freaking out (cuz I'm taking care of that one for you) I suggest moving. You could just Pick a spot on that big Red Ocean and move there... Help turn it purple :)  

Hell you might be able to ride this thing out- you could grow your own food. Then you won't have to worry about any Modern Seige . Just make sure you have enough Water- cuz without water all you got is Dirt.

and the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round....

Peace

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This ludicrous feuding at MLW has to STOP (9.00 / 1)


Seriously:
Grow the fuck UP.


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

I guess (6.50 / 2)
I'll watch it implode while eating mango.

sad.


-pyrrho-




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