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Afghanistan Protest: The Next Step

by: vox humana

Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 20:29:47 PM PST



Again, a copy of e-mail with gloss, but I think it's important to give a notice of the next step in the protests that are building. As you may recall, last week people were urged to contact the White House to request an end to the war in whatever way they saw fit.

vox humana :: Afghanistan Protest: The Next Step

I have highlighted some portions of this e-mail to add to conversations at blogs at which I have been posting this information.

...Many groups have mobilized thousands of calls to the White House to plead for no escalation and for an end to the occupation of Afghanistan. It appears that the President is not listening to the people and will indeed escalate the war. If that is the announcement made on Tuesday, there will be demonstrations across the country the following day. Please join us.

President Obama will not be going to West Point on Tuesday to announce the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan. Instead, it is widely anticipated that he will be doing his best to sell the escalation of the war to the U.S. people.

This will be a tragic moment in our history and for the future of our country, Afghanistan and other nations.

As even many leading figures in the Democratic Party recognize, the war and its escalation cannot make U.S. Americans safe. With the vast majority of Afghans alienated from the corrupt Karzai government and angered by the foreign military occupation, the war cannot bringing development, democracy, security, or women's rights to Afghanistan. It is killing Afghan civilians and U.S./NATO troops. It is stealing badly needed funds from housing, jobs, health care, and climate protection.

Call your Congressional Representative and Senators, who have the power to not fund what the President calls for, at 202-224-3121 or 202-225-3121. Tell them to demand

* A timeline for withdrawal of U.S./NATO forces
* No additional troops sent to Afghanistan
* Pursuit of talks with all parties to the conflict
* Provision of generous civilian-led development funds

President Obama will speak on TV at 8pm Tuesday night. Assuming that he will announce an escalation of troop levels, as predicted by the media, we will protest the next day, Wednesday, from 5-6 pm.

This is a grassroots movement that seems to have taken hold across the country, but it has found especially fertile ground in New England. For example, here are some planned sites for demonstrations:

Boston MA: Boston Common Brewer Fountain, Tremont St. Boston near Park St. Station

Providence RI: Burnside Park at the corner of Kennedy Plaza and Exchange Streets (the end toward the Post Office and Federal Court House).

Hartford CT: Federal Building, 450 Main Street

New Haven CT: Federal Building, 150 Court Street

Worcester MA: Weds 4:30, Lincoln Square.

Portland ME: Monument Square, Congress Street

Portsmouth NH: Market Square

Cape Cod towns MA: Gather at every town hall at the time above, unless your town has a different event listed below....

Dorchester MA:  Tues 4:30-6pm, Fields Corner.  

Gloucester MA: Weds 4:30-6:30, Gloucester Rotary, exit 11 on 128N

Cambridge MA: Weds 5:30-6:30, Central Square.  

Andover MA: Weds 7-8pm, Main St, Old Town Hall.

Newton MA: Thurs 5pm, Newton Center.  

Arlington MA: Saturday 10:30am, Broadway Plaza

Newburyport MA: Sunday 12 noon-1pm, Market Square

Bangor ME: Margaret Chase Smith Federal Building @ 202 Harlow Street
................

Here is another listing of some participating cities. You will note some duplicates but some are in other areas. Maybe others here can fill in details as to where to go in their areas?

Protests are scheduled at 40 cities including Allentown, Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Colorado Springs, Columbus OH, Detroit, Eugene OR, Greensboro, Harrisburg, Hartford, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Madison WI; Miami, New Haven, New Paltz, New York City, Newark, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland ME, Portsmouth NH, Richmond, San Francisco, Seattle, Teaneck NJ.

Ah, New York City, you see? Indeed! Here is the information for those demonstrations:

Wed Dec 2, 2009 @ 6 pm:
In Staten Island: Arthur Kill and Richmond Avenue

In Manhattan: Times Square, U.S. Army Recruiting Station

And more... with highlights for an item I found particularly noteworthy:

In South Jersey, the protest will be led by high school students and is scheduled at 7:00 PM at the Monument, located at Albany and Ventnor Avenues, in Atlantic City.

In Bryn Mawr PA, there will be a Vigil from 5:00-6:00 PM at the corner of Bryn Mawr and Lancaster Avenues, by the Bryn Mawr library.

In Morrisville NJ there will be a Candlelight Vigil from 5:00-6:00 PM on Bridge Street on the Morrisville side of the "Trenton Makes, the World Takes Bridge."

The press release announcing those latter protests has a particularly salient paragraph (again, my highlight):

The US estimates that there are just 16,000 Taliban fighters in Afghanistan. The US, NATO and Afghan soldiers and police forces number over 270,000, with air power and highly sophisticated weapons that the Taliban don't have. If they can't be defeated with that, it is highly unlikely that another US escalation will defeat them. President Obama must stand up to military advisors, as President Johnson didn't during Vietnam, refuse escalation, and instead order a humanitarian surge.

Don't feel left out, Desert Southwest!

Phoenix AZ: The intersection of 24th Street and Camelback Road Phoenix

Candlelight Vigil starting around 5:30 p.m.

Bring: candles, signs opposing the Afghanistan escalation and where you believe our money could be better used, drums and other musical instruments. If you have one, wear your "War is Costly, Peacs is Priceless" t-shirt.

And here is a very good list of events in cities and towns around the nation, from Florida to Colorado, Texas to Missouri, and yes - at the White House.

I hope you will add information that you may have as to events held near you... maybe even one you have created! Please use this diary as a space to coordinate any protest you feel might be effective in your area.

To recap:

*first came public information and education

*next come phone calls to national leaders requesting policy changes (and no, you do not need to use the suggested ones from above. The point is not so much what you say as it is coordinating when it is said. Strength in numbers)

*now come local grassroots protests

*next...(as we all know will be necessary)?

If those who are in unity with the idea of stopping this war can act together and acknowledge this new beginning, perhaps something can get done. Please don't sit on the sidelines. Consider action. Now.


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This looks promising! (10.00 / 1)
So... my idea: Two protests in One. What would happen if everyone submitted video footage of their local protest to YouTube that night?

A Video-In?


Obama PROMISED more troops in Afghanistan during his campaign. (4.00 / 1)
     Granted, I had to hold my nose when I voted for him because he is far too corporate for me, but bitching because the ONLY campaign promise he is willing to make good on is more troops in Afghanistan is just plain stoopid.

    I agree that just shoveling more troops in there is pointless, and will only result in more dead people for no good reason whatsoever.

    More dead troops, and a hell of a lot more dead innocent Afghanistan citizens.

    But by god, Obama promised to do it, and to his disgrace, it is the ONLY campaign promise he is willing to honor.

    Not a single person who voted for Obama has ANY right whatsoever to complain that Obama is increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

    He FUCKING PROMISED YOU he would, and now you bitch because the only campaign promise he is willing to keep is increased troop levels in Afghanistan ?

    Maybe it's just ME, but I think the fact that Obama has kicked all non-rich-non-wall street USA citizens under the wall street bus so his wall street butt buddies can get even  more obscenely rich is more bitchworthy than than doing what he promised to do in Afghanistan.

    Obama DID promise more troops in Afghanistan, while he NEVER promised  to stack his cabinet with wall street
assholes who HATE people like us, and successfully looted us of most of our wealth.

    The "DILBERT principle" is so utterly vindicated HERE.

    For fuck's sake- At least bitch for a defensible reason!

     


Vacuum (6.67 / 3)
I think you miss the point, and all your excess is for naught.

I don't see vox humana bitching because of what Obama has done.  And i don't think his comments have anything to do with what Obama did or did not promise.

I see it as a principled stand on the war in Afghanistan, namely, that we should leave immediately.  He is urging that those who think alike take some action, and here offers some concrete venues for doing so.

The point is that he would be doing this no matter who was president or what they had promised in the campaign.  this has nothing whatsoever to do with bitching about Obama, as i see it.  In fact, i doubt you can find any of vox humana's words above that would qualify as bitching!

"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one." -Voltaire
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Yeah- "bitching" was inelegant... (0.00 / 0)
     But protesting against Obama throwing more fodder at Afghanistan by anyone who voted for him is asinine.

    Everyone who voted for him ELECTED him to throw more troops at an unwinnable occupation.

    My favorite nephew is a marine infantry corporal who will be in the middle of that shit next year.

    And I voted for Obama because HE would at least think about it before he sent my nephew to fight in a lost cause.

    This while I have other nephews on their third tour in Iraq.

    I enlisted the year after the USA lost the Vietnam war. (I was too young to enlist before then.), so I got to serve with nothing worse than some VERY poorly aimed arty lobbed in our general direction to our great amusement in a place I'm still forbidden to admit to.

    So I was lucky beyound belief.

    Doing the math, the number of family members going to support illegal occupations times the number of tours is quickly approaching a 100% certainty that one of my nephews will be terribly disfigured or killed.

    I have 3 nephews and a niece in the Army and Marines, and only my niece will escape the quagmires because she was so terribly injured in training that she will get a medical discharge.

    Thank the repugs for the fact that the USA army is claiming that she had a "preexisting condition" so they won't pay for her medical treatment for her injury without congressional intervention.

    Obama has decided to inflict abject horror on MY family, as he promised during his campaign, and I voted for him in the belief that he would inflict less horror on my family than McBush would.

    The jury is most certainly out on THAT.

    I just fucking hope my nephews survive Obama's plan to throw them at unwinnable occupations.

    I also know Obama doesn't give a fuck if my nephews get killed as long as he can claim that killing our kids makes him look like a "strong" presnit.

    IMHO, In the current occupations, Obama is bush in blackface, and nothing better.  

    HIS fucking kids will NEVER die just to claim that he is a big chief war hawk.

    That would be MY FAMILY.

    Reality from the patriots who created the USA.

    vacuum


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Noted, Vacuum (6.00 / 1)
I don't think that this essay was about "protesting Obama" at all.

And your response was more about your bitching, your anger, than it was about the essay.  I can understand your emotion.

But i don't think that Obama, nor Bush for that matter, is out to get your family, the military members of which volunteered to serve, after all, to their credit.

I think Obama's policies, even when I disagree with them, are what he thinks is best for the nation as a whole.  I think he takes sending troops to "harm's way" seriously, and it is aging him.  I do not think it is fair to assume that he is just doing it so that he can "claim that he is a big chief war hawk. "

On fact, i think that he would like to claim that he was the president who got us out of foreign military involvement in a way that served both our needs and those of the nations involved.

"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one." -Voltaire
Ah, my dear Voltaire, doubt is an acquired and cultivated taste, like Laphroaig Whisky or fine truffles, and quite as exquisite.


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This isn't aimed at you per se Vacuum (0.00 / 0)
but I find all of this deeply ironic.

I remember seeing Keith Olbermann during the campaign making an argument that Obama was better than McCain on "the War" because he was going to send MORE TROOPS to Afghanistan.  The cliche' of "The Right War."  Now, he does special comments urging him to leave.  

BTW, there is NO Anti-War "Movement" in this country, aside from the ANSWER Coalition/United for Justice crew who garner no media coverage and preach to the choir.

This is important because it's important to note (again)that President Obama RAN on this platform.  The Democratic Party RAN on the "Right War" and bloggers and anchors said little to nothing.

Now, gnashing of teeth.  Look at Vox and Mad in that other thread.  

HE FUCKING RAN ON THIS!!  Your remedy is the same as it was with Bush but you can't use it.  Vote them out means voting your own party and the titular head of your party out.

He gave himself an out in that speech last night for the 2011 Timeline.  He said, "we will execute this transition (out) RESPONSIBLY, taking into account conditions on the ground."

That's a gigantic hedge on a promise.

So, we're not going anywhere anytime soon.  The surge in Iraq worked.  He's going to try and make this one work.  I, for one, hope it works for a bunch of reasons (namely Pakistan and the moral and security issue of not abandoning these people again.)

I too, was stupified he didn't bring up the issue of Women in his speech, then again, by noting it, he would be tying his hands forever to this war and that issue...like WMD.


[ Parent ]
This string of comments, though, (9.50 / 2)
appears to assume that we all voted for Obama. I know that I, for one, did not. I wrote in the name of a different former candidate instead. This issue was definitely one of the reasons.

I certainly don't expect anyone to know this, but back in the days when I thought dKos mattered as an instrument of political change, I was protesting that horrible term "the right war" even then.

I would also note that others might have voted for Mr. Obama despite his stance on Afghanistan. Few people can vote for candidates with whom they are in complete agreement. Certainly they reserved for themselves the right to protest now that with which they did not agree then.

Last and perhaps most important, it is never too late to have a change in thinking and begin to act in a way different from how one set out to be in the first place. Perhaps those who are protesting now because it happened for them are hoping it will happen for Mr. Obama next.


[ Parent ]
Point Taken (6.00 / 1)
but the instruments of information, the Media, blogs, Left Wing Information concern du jour (for the most part) buried this until it bit them in the ass.

They wanted their guy to have his Hawk bona fides with the "Right War" Narrative so he could get those Middle Americans not thinking he was a pussy .....but they were just playing along.  

Turns out he wasn't.  Or turns out he decided it was political suicide to not keep his promise.  

Either way, there's a sudden surge (if you will) of righteous indignation about a War, this President clearly pumped up for almost 2 years.

I'l call out anyone on the Right who sandbags him for making that decision because they'll be fucking hypocrites.  Just like that MSNBC anchor.  His audience are Kos Kidz, so he'll sell out his previous statements to keep up with the jones's.  Didn't mean to impugn you.

So anyway, you voted for Kucinich right?


[ Parent ]
Now, how did you know? (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Chicago Protest: Bring All Troops Home Now! (10.00 / 1)
Emergency Protest in Response to Obama Administration's Escalation of Afghanistan War
U.S./NATO Out of Afghanistan! Bring the Troops Home Now!

Wednesday, December 2 at 5 pm
Federal Plaza, downtown Chicago, corner of Adams and Dearborn
For more info call 773-463-0311

The war in Afghanistan is a colonial-type war. There are more than 140 armed organizations fighting against the occupation. That is a clear indication that the Afghan people view the U.S./NATO invasion as colonial-type occupation force. The continued war and its escalation threaten the lives of untold thousands of Afghan people and U.S. soldiers. . . .

The emergency response is endorsed by 8th Day Center for Justice, Albany Park, North Park, Mayfair Neighbors for Peace and Justice, American Friends Service Committee, ANSWER Chicago, Chicago Area CodePINK Chicago Coalition Against War & Racism, Chicago Committee to Bring the Troops Home Now, Chicago Copwatch, Chicago Democratic Socialists of America, Chicago Labor Against the War, Chicago Socialist Party, Chicago World Can't Wait, Cook County Green Party, Gay Liberation Network, Generations for Peace, International Socialist Organization, International Solidarity Movement - Chicago, Logan Square Neighbors for Justice and Peace, Near West Citizens for Peace and Justice, Neighbors for Peace, News and Letters Committees, Nicaragua Solidarity Committee, North Shore Coalition for Justice, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Peace and the Environment, Northwest Suburban Peace & Education Project, Peace Pledge, Southsiders for Peace, Tikkun Community-Chicago Chapter, Workers World Party.

http://www.chicagoanswer.net/

I'm important, and everyone else is too. - G.K. Chesterton


Protest Tonight, not Tomorrow! (10.00 / 1)
If possible, don't make the 'please ignore us' move of protesting tomorrow! Protest tonight, when Obama is making his speech, that's when there will be by far more national attention paid to protest, right???? Anyway, activists in the following cities 'get that' obvious stuff, and are protesting tonight:

Oakland, CA
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 7:00pm - 7:30pm
4063 Piedmont Avenue (Candlelight vigil - Meet under the clock tower at Piedmont Av and 41st St.)
Contact: Brad Newsham - newsham@mac.com - 415-305-8294

Washington, D.C.
Tuesday, Dec. 1 at 5pm
White House - Lafayette Park
Contact ANSWER in DC: 202-265-1948, dc@answercoalition.org

Las Vegas, NVDay of: Tuesday, Dec. 1 from 3pm to 5pm
In front of the Federal Building (600 Las Vegas Blvd.)

Albuquerque, NM
Tuesday, Dec. 1 at 6pm
Galleria Plaza: 2nd and Copper NW
Sponsored by Stop the War Machine

Highland Falls (Orange County), NY
adjacent to the U.S. Academy at West Point
Tuesday, Dec. 1
Gather at 5:30pm
Rally at 6:30pm
March to the gates of West Point
This demonstration is a rain or shine event. Bring candles or a flashlight. . . . Contact the Activist Newsletter, jacdon@earthlink.net, for information about possible car pools from Ulster and Dutchess counties. For information about the rally contact Bennett Weiss at (845) 569-8662, benweiss@aol.com, and Nick Mottern (914) 806-6179, nickmottern@earthlink.net. For carpooling from Westchester County coordinated by WESPAC, (914) 449-6514.

New York City, NY
Tuesday, Dec. 1 at 6pm
Times Square

Toledo, Ohio
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 5:30pm to 7:00pm
Intersection of Talmadge and Monroe.
Organized by: Northwest Ohio Peace Coalition
Contact: Steve Miller - stevepeaceactivist@yahoo.com - Phone (419) 242-7317

Seattle, WA
Tuesday, Dec. 1 at 4 pm at Westlake, 4th and Pine in Seattle
SaturDay after: Saturday, Dec. 5 at 2 pm at Westlake, 4th and Pine
All actions endorsed by ANSWER Coalition, World Can't Wait, Veterans for Peace #92 and SNOW Coalition
Contact ANSWER in Seattle: 206-568-1661, answer@answerseattle.org

Memphis, TN
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 4:30pm - 7:00pm
Corner of Poplar and Highland
Organized by Mid-South Peace and Justice Center
Contact: Jacob Flowers at 901-517-8689 jacob@midsouthpeace.org

Richmond VA
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 5pm to 7 pm
Federal Courthouse, 701 East Broad Street
Sponsored by World Can't Wait, Code Pink, Green Party of Virginia. Defenders for Freedom, Justice and Equality, Virginia, and Richmond Peace and Education Center are supporting the call for people to come out and demonstrate.
Contact: Rain Burroughs - 804-380-3564

http://answer.pephost.org/site...

I'm important, and everyone else is too. - G.K. Chesterton


Excellent suggestion. (0.00 / 0)
Both would be good if possible, actually....

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